Mamluk to Arabia or Egypt? (2024)

For Arabia, I think you don't if you DON'T have Dharma ^^ It's currently bugged with Dharma, you should keep your gov but you don't I think.
Egypt loses the Mamluk reform, it's in the formation decision.

Neither of these tags provide anything significant for what you lose (lose gov for egypt, gain nothing, lose the ability to form further tags for Arabia, gain a few perma claims on low dev provinces anyway), I'd advise not to.

makaramus said:

go for arabia its really good formation.

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I don't get why Arabia is a good formable.

mechanical_Critter said:

I don't get why Arabia is a good formable.

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giving you empire rank + lots of claims while easy to form. You can become empire while having very low devolpment thanks to forming arabia.(wich is huge considering how wide culture group of leventine is)
sadly as I mentioned claims its giving despite being wide area its very poorly devolped so holding it as wide empire causes a lot of corruption. if you are intented to conquer a lot you may instead want to give deserts to your vassals.

You said it, the claims are mostly irrelevant, they are amongst the provinces that you need to conquer so chances are no many will be relevant. Further, they concern as you say very poor provinces.

Empire rank is a boon, yes, but imo it's not worth at all to relinquish your ability to form subsequent nation, not by a long shot. Plus, if you're in position to form arabia, chances are you're already very close to be an empire by virtue of pushing that button anyway…

mechanical_Critter said:

You said it, the claims are mostly irrelevant, they are amongst the provinces that you need to conquer so chances are no many will be relevant. Further, they concern as you say very poor provinces.

Empire rank is a boon, yes, but imo it's not worth at all to relinquish your ability to form subsequent nation, not by a long shot. Plus, if you're in position to form arabia, chances are you're already very close to be an empire by virtue of pushing that button anyway…

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Not necessarily.

If you as the Mamluks run through the Arabian Peninsula and Beyliks to build up before fighting the Ottomans, or the Ottomans fall to an early Venice or Austrian war, you can easily have the cores to form the Arabian Empire long before you have the development. And having the Levantine cultures already accepted makes conquering the rest of the area much faster and easier.

That, and once you form Arabia there's an achievement.

rimworld inbox said:

Form Rum.

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You have to culture shift to Turkish for this, but yeah. This means don't become an empire in the meantime.